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Date: Sun, 7 Mar 93 05:12:21
From: Space Digest maintainer <digests@isu.isunet.edu>
Reply-To: Space-request@isu.isunet.edu
Subject: Space Digest V16 #284
To: Space Digest Readers
Precedence: bulk
Space Digest Sun, 7 Mar 93 Volume 16 : Issue 284
Today's Topics:
Astro/Space Frequently Seen Acronyms
Charon
David Sternlight and wasted bandwidth
Fallen Angels (2 msgs)
Gaspra Animation
Getting people into S
Jupiter and Venus followons (was Re: Refueling in orbit)
Mir visible UK/Eire
Nasa and the free market
Shuttle budget
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Date: 6 Mar 1993 00:00:09 -0500
From: Mark Bradford <bradfrd2@ncar.ucar.edu>
Subject: Astro/Space Frequently Seen Acronyms
Newsgroups: sci.astro,sci.space,sci.space.shuttle,news.answers
Archive-name: space/acronyms
Edition: 8
Acronym List for sci.astro, sci.space, and sci.space.shuttle:
Edition 8, 1992 Dec 7
Last posted: 1992 Aug 27
This list is offered as a reference for translating commonly appearing
acronyms in the space-related newsgroups. If I forgot or botched your
favorite acronym, please let me know! Also, if there's an acronym *not*
on this list that confuses you, drop me a line, and if I can figure
it out, I'll add it to the list.
Note that this is intended to be a reference for *frequently seen*
acronyms, and is most emphatically *not* encyclopedic. If I incorporated
every acronym I ever saw, I'd soon run out of disk space! :-)
The list will be posted at regular intervals, every 30 days. All
comments regarding it are welcome; I'm reachable as bradfrd2@ncar.ucar.edu.
Note that this just tells what the acronyms stand for -- you're on your
own for figuring out what they *mean*! Note also that the total number of
acronyms in use far exceeds what I can list; special-purpose acronyms that
are essentially always explained as they're introduced are omitted.
Further, some acronyms stand for more than one thing; as of Edition 3 of
the list, these acronyms appear on multiple lines, unless they're simply
different ways of referring to the same thing.
Thanks to everybody who's sent suggestions since the first version of
the list, and especially to Garrett A. Wollman (wollman@griffin.uvm.edu),
who is maintaining an independent list, somewhat more verbose in
character than mine, and to Daniel Fischer (dfi@specklec.mpifr-bonn.mpg.de),
who is maintaining a truly HUGE list (535 at last count) of acronyms and
terms, mostly in German (which I read, fortunately).
Special thanks this time to Ken Hollis at NASA, who sent me a copy of NASA
Reference Publication 1059 Revised: _Space Transportation System and
Associated Payloads: Glossary, Acronyms, and Abbreviations_, a truly
mammoth tome -- almost 300 pages of TLAs.
Special Bonus! At the end of this posting, you will find a perl program
written by none other than Larry Wall, whose purpose is to scramble the
acronym list in an entertaining fashion. Thanks, Larry!
A&A: Astronomy and Astrophysics
AAO: Anglo-Australian Observatory
AAS: American Astronomical Society
AAS: American Astronautical Society
AAVSO: American Association of Variable Star Observers
ACE: Advanced Composition Explorer
ACRV: Assured Crew Return Vehicle (or) Astronaut Crew Rescue Vehicle
ADFRF: Ames-Dryden Flight Research Facility (was DFRF) (NASA)
AGN: Active Galactic Nucleus
AGU: American Geophysical Union
AIAA: American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics
AIPS: Astronomical Image Processing System
AJ: Astronomical Journal
ALEXIS: Array of Low Energy X-ray Imaging Sensors
ALPO: Association of Lunar and Planetary Observers
ALS: Advanced Launch System
ANSI: American National Standards Institute
AOA: Abort Once Around (Shuttle abort plan)
AOCS: Attitude and Orbit Control System
Ap.J: Astrophysical Journal
APM: Attached Pressurized Module (a.k.a. Columbus)
APU: Auxiliary Power Unit
ARC: Ames Research Center (NASA)
ARTEMIS: Advanced Relay TEchnology MISsion
ASA: Astronomical Society of the Atlantic
ASI: Agenzia Spaziale Italiano
ASRM: Advanced Solid Rocket Motor
ATDRS: Advanced Tracking and Data Relay Satellite
ATLAS: Atmospheric Laboratory for Applications and Science
ATM: Amateur Telescope Maker
ATO: Abort To Orbit (Shuttle abort plan)
AU: Astronomical Unit
AURA: Association of Universities for Research in Astronomy
AW&ST: Aviation Week and Space Technology (a.k.a. AvLeak)
AXAF: Advanced X-ray Astrophysics Facility
BATSE: Burst And Transient Source Experiment (on CGRO)
BBXRT: Broad-Band X-Ray Telescope (ASTRO package)
BEM: Bug-Eyed Monster
BH: Black Hole
BIMA: Berkeley Illinois Maryland Array
BNSC: British National Space Centre
BTW: By The Way
C&T: Communications & Tracking
CCAFS: Cape Canaveral Air Force Station
CCD: Charge-Coupled Device
CCDS: Centers for the Commercial Development of Space
CD-ROM: Compact Disk Read-Only Memory
CFA: Center For Astrophysics
CFC: ChloroFluoroCarbon
CFF: Columbus Free Flyer
CFHT: Canada-France-Hawaii Telescope
CGRO: (Arthur Holley) Compton Gamma Ray Observatory (was GRO)
CHARA: Center for High Angular Resolution Astronomy
CIRRIS: Cryogenic InfraRed Radiance Instrument for Shuttle
CIT: Circumstellar Imaging Telescope
CM: Command Module (Apollo spacecraft)
CMCC: Central Mission Control Centre (ESA)
CNES: Centre National d'Etude Spatiales
CNO: Carbon-Nitrogen-Oxygen
CNSR: Comet Nucleus Sample Return
COBE: COsmic Background Explorer
COMPTEL: COMPton TELescope (on CGRO)
COSTAR: Corrective Optics Space Telescope Axial Replacement
CRAF: Comet Rendezvous / Asteroid Flyby
CRRES: Combined Release / Radiation Effects Satellite
CSM: Command and Service Module (Apollo spacecraft)
CSTC: Consolidated Satellite Test Center (USAF)
CTIO: Cerro Tololo Interamerican Observatory
DCX: Delta Clipper eXperimental
DDCU: DC-to-DC Converter Unit
DFRF: Dryden Flight Research Facility (now ADFRF)
DMSP: Defense Meteorological Satellite Program
DOD: Department Of Defense (sometimes DoD)
DOE: Department Of Energy
DOT: Department Of Transportation
DSCS: Defense Satellite Communications System
DSN: Deep Space Network
DSP: Defense Support Program (USAF/NRO)
EAFB: Edwards Air Force Base
ECS: Environmental Control System
EDO: Extended Duration Orbiter
EGRET: Energetic Gamma Ray Experiment Telescope (on CGRO)
EJASA: Electronic Journal of the Astronomical Society of the Atlantic
ELV: Expendable Launch Vehicle
EMU: Extravehicular Mobility Unit
EOS: Earth Observing System
ERS: Earth Resources Satellite (as in ERS-1)
ESA: European Space Agency
ESO: European Southern Observatory
ET: (Shuttle) External Tank
ETLA: Extended Three Letter Acronym
ETR: Eastern Test Range
EUV: Extreme UltraViolet
EUVE: Extreme UltraViolet Explorer
EVA: ExtraVehicular Activity
FAQ: Frequently Asked Questions
FAST: Fast Auroral SnapshoT explorer
FFT: Fast Fourier Transform
FGS: Fine Guidance Sensors (on HST)
FHST: Fixed Head Star Trackers (on HST)
FIR: Far InfraRed
FITS: Flexible Image Transport System
FOC: Faint Object Camera (on HST)
FOS: Faint Object Spectrograph (on HST)
FRR: Flight-Readiness Review
FTP: File Transfer Protocol
FTS: Flight Telerobotic Servicer
FUSE: Far Ultraviolet Spectroscopic Explorer
FWHM: Full Width at Half Maximum
FYI: For Your Information
GAS: Get-Away Special
GBT: Green Bank Telescope
GCVS: General Catalog of Variable Stars
GEM: Giotto Extended Mission
GEO: Geosynchronous Earth Orbit
GDS: Great Dark Spot
GHRS: Goddard High Resolution Spectrograph (on HST)
GIF: Graphics Interchange Format
GLOMR: Global Low-Orbiting Message Relay
GMC: Giant Molecular Cloud
GMRT: Giant Meter-wave Radio Telescope
GMT: Greenwich Mean Time (also called UT)
GOES: Geostationary Orbiting Environmental Satellite
GOX: Gaseous OXygen
GPC: General Purpose Computer
GPS: Global Positioning System
GRO: Gamma Ray Observatory (now CGRO)
GRS: Gamma Ray Spectrometer (on Mars Observer)
GRS: Great Red Spot
GSC: Guide Star Catalog (for HST)
GSFC: Goddard Space Flight Center (NASA)
GTO: Geostationary Transfer Orbit
HAO: High Altitude Observatory
HD: Henry Draper catalog entry
HEAO: High Energy Astronomical Observatory
HeRA: Hermes Robotic Arm
HF: High Frequency
HGA: High Gain Antenna
HLC: Heavy Lift Capability
HLV: Heavy Lift Vehicle
HMC: Halley Multicolor Camera (on Giotto)
HR: Hertzsprung-Russell (diagram)
HRI: High Resolution Imager (on ROSAT)
HSP: High Speed Photometer (on HST)
HST: Hubble Space Telescope
HUT: Hopkins Ultraviolet Telescope (ASTRO package)
HV: High Voltage
IAPPP: International Amateur/Professional Photoelectric Photometry
IAU: International Astronomical Union
IAUC: IAU Circular
ICE: International Cometary Explorer
IDA: International Dark-sky Association
IDL: Interactive Data Language
IGM: InterGalactic Medium
IGY: International Geophysical Year
IMHO: In My Humble Opinion
IOTA: Infrared-Optical Telescope Array
IOTA: International Occultation Timing Association
IPS: Inertial Pointing System
IR: InfraRed
IRAF: Image Reduction and Analysis Facility
IRAS: InfraRed Astronomical Satellite
ISAS: Institute of Space and Astronautical Science (Japan)
ISM: InterStellar Medium
ISO: Infrared Space Observatory
ISO: International Standards Organization
ISPM: International Solar Polar Mission (now Ulysses)
ISY: International Space Year
IUE: International Ultraviolet Explorer
IUS: Inertial Upper Stage
JEM: Japanese Experiment Module (for SSF)
JGR: Journal of Geophysical Research
JILA: Joint Institute for Laboratory Astrophysics
JPL: Jet Propulsion Laboratory
JSC: Johnson Space Center (NASA)
KAO: Kuiper Airborne Observatory
KPNO: Kitt Peak National Observatory
KSC: Kennedy Space Center (NASA)
KTB: Cretaceous-Tertiary Boundary (from German)
LANL: Los Alamos National Laboratory
LaRC: Langley Research Center (NASA)
LDEF: Long Duration Exposure Facility
LEM: Lunar Excursion Module (a.k.a. LM) (Apollo spacecraft)
LEO: Low Earth Orbit
LeRC: Lewis Research Center (NASA)
LEST: Large Earth-based Solar Telescope
LFSA: List of Frequently Seen Acronyms (!)
LGA: Low Gain Antenna
LGM: Little Green Men
LH: Liquid Hydrogen (also LH2 or LHX)
LLNL: Lawrence-Livermore National Laboratory
LM: Lunar Module (a.k.a. LEM) (Apollo spacecraft)
LMC: Large Magellanic Cloud
LN2: Liquid N2 (Nitrogen)
LOX: Liquid OXygen
LRB: Liquid Rocket Booster
LSR: Local Standard of Rest
LTP: Lunar Transient Phenomenon
MB: Manned Base
MCC: Mission Control Center
MECO: Main Engine CutOff
MMH: MonoMethyl Hydrazine
MMT: Multiple Mirror Telescope
MMU: Manned Maneuvering Unit
MNRAS: Monthly Notices of the Royal Astronomical Society
MOC: Mars Observer Camera (on Mars Observer)
MOL: Manned Orbiting Laboratory
MOLA: Mars Observer Laser Altimeter (on Mars Observer)
MOMV: Manned Orbital Maneuvering Vehicle
MOTV: Manned Orbital Transfer Vehicle
MPC: Minor Planets Circular
MRSR: Mars Rover and Sample Return
MRSRM: Mars Rover and Sample Return Mission
MSFC: (George C.) Marshall Space Flight Center (NASA)
MTC: Man Tended Capability
NACA: National Advisory Committee on Aeronautics (became NASA)
NASA: National Aeronautics and Space Administration
NASDA: NAtional Space Development Agency (Japan)
NASM: National Air and Space Museum
NASP: National AeroSpace Plane
NBS: National Bureau of Standards (now NIST)
NDV: NASP Derived Vehicle
NERVA: Nuclear Engine for Rocket Vehicle Application
NGC: New General Catalog
NICMOS: Near Infrared Camera / Multi Object Spectrometer (HST upgrade)
NIMS: Near-Infrared Mapping Spectrometer (on Galileo)
NIR: Near InfraRed
NIST: National Institute for Standards and Technology (was NBS)
NLDP: National Launch Development Program
NOAA: National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration
NOAO: National Optical Astronomy Observatories
NRAO: National Radio Astronomy Observatory
NRO: National Reconnaissance Office
NS: Neutron Star
NSA: National Security Agency
NSF: National Science Foundation
NSO: National Solar Observatory
NSSDC: National Space Science Data Center
NTR: Nuclear Thermal Rocket(ry)
NTT: New Technology Telescope
OAO: Orbiting Astronomical Observatory
OCST: Office of Commercial Space Transportation
OMB: Office of Management and Budget
OMS: Orbital Maneuvering System
OPF: Orbiter Processing Facility
ORFEUS: Orbiting and Retrievable Far and Extreme Ultraviolet Spectrometer
OSC: Orbital Sciences Corporation
OSCAR: Orbiting Satellite Carrying Amateur Radio
OSSA: Office of Space Science and Applications
OSSE: Oriented Scintillation Spectrometer Experiment (on CGRO)
OTA: Optical Telescope Assembly (on HST)
OTHB: Over The Horizon Backscatter
OTV: Orbital Transfer Vehicle
OV: Orbital Vehicle
PAM: Payload Assist Module
PAM-D: Payload Assist Module, Delta-class
PI: Principal Investigator
PLSS: Portable Life Support System
PM: Pressurized Module
PMC: Permanently Manned Capability
PMIRR: Pressure Modulated InfraRed Radiometer (on Mars Observer)
PMT: PhotoMultiplier Tube
PSF: Point Spread Function
PSR: PulSaR
PV: Photovoltaic
PVO: Pioneer Venus Orbiter
QSO: Quasi-Stellar Object
RCI: Rodent Cage Interface (for SLS mission)
RCS: Reaction Control System
REM: Rat Enclosure Module (for SLS mission)
RF: Radio Frequency
RFI: Radio Frequency Interference
RIACS: Research Institute for Advanced Computer Science
RMS: Remote Manipulator System
RNGC: Revised New General Catalog
ROSAT: ROentgen SATellite
ROUS: Rodents Of Unusual Size (I don't believe they exist)
RSN: Real Soon Now
RTG: Radioisotope Thermoelectric Generator
RTLS: Return To Launch Site (Shuttle abort plan)
SAA: South Atlantic Anomaly
SAGA: Solar Array Gain Augmentation (for HST)
SAMPEX: Solar Anomalous and Magnetospheric Particle EXplorer
SAO: Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory
SAR: Search And Rescue
SAR: Synthetic Aperture Radar
SARA: Satellite pour Astronomie Radio Amateur
SAREX: Search and Rescue Exercise
SAREX: Shuttle Amateur Radio Experiment
SAS: Space Activity Suit
SAS: Space Adaptation Syndrome
SAT: Synthetic Aperture Telescope
S/C: SpaceCraft
SCA: Shuttle Carrier Aircraft
SCT: Schmidt-Cassegrain Telescope
SDI: Strategic Defense Initiative
SDIO: Strategic Defense Initiative Organization
SEI: Space Exploration Initiative
SEST: Swedish ESO Submillimeter Telescope
SETI: Search for ExtraTerrestrial Intelligence
SID: Sudden Ionospheric Disturbance
SIR: Shuttle Imaging Radar
SIRTF: Space (formerly Shuttle) InfraRed Telescope Facility
SL: SpaceLab
SLAR: Side-Looking Airborne Radar
SLC: Space Launch Complex
SLS: Space(lab) Life Sciences
SMC: Small Magellanic Cloud
SME: Solar Mesosphere Explorer
SMEX: SMall EXplorers
SMM: Solar Maximum Mission
SN: SuperNova (e.g., SN1987A)
SNR: Signal to Noise Ratio
SNR: SuperNova Remnant
SNU: Solar Neutrino Units
SOFIA: Stratospheric Observatory For Infrared Astronomy
SOHO: SOlar Heliospheric Observatory
SPAN: Space Physics and Analysis Network
SPDM: Special Purpose Dextrous Manipulator
SPOT: Systeme Probatoire pour l'Observation de la Terre
SPS: Solar Power Satellite
SRB: Solid Rocket Booster
SRM: Solid Rocket Motor
SSF: Space Station Fred (er, Freedom)
SSI: Solid-State Imager (on Galileo)
SSI: Space Studies Institut
SSME: Space Shuttle Main Engine
SSPF: Space Station Processing Facility
SSRMS: Space Station Remote Manipulator System
SST: Spectroscopic Survey Telescope
SST: SuperSonic Transport
SSTO: Single Stage To Orbit
STIS: Space Telescope Imaging Spectrometer (to replace FOC and GHRS)
STS: Shuttle Transport System (or) Space Transportation System
STScI: Space Telescope Science Institute
SWAS: Submillimeter Wave Astronomy Satellite
SWF: ShortWave Fading
TAL: Transatlantic Abort Landing (Shuttle abort plan)
TAU: Thousand Astronomical Unit (mission)
TCS: Thermal Control System
TDRS: Tracking and Data Relay Satellite
TDRSS: Tracking and Data Relay Satellite System
TES: Thermal Emission Spectrometer (on Mars Observer)
TIROS: Television InfraRed Observation Satellite
TLA: Three Letter Acronym
TOMS: Total Ozone Mapping Spectrometer
TPS: Thermal Protection System
TSS: Tethered Satellite System
UARS: Upper Atmosphere Research Satellite
UBM: Unpressurized Berthing Mechanism
UDMH: Unsymmetrical DiMethyl Hydrazine
UFO: Unidentified Flying Object
UGC: Uppsala General Catalog
UHF: Ultra High Frequency
UIT: Ultraviolet Imaging Telescope (Astro package)
UKST: United Kingdom Schmidt Telescope
USAF: United States Air Force
USMP: United States Microgravity Payload
UT: Universal Time (a.k.a. GMT, UTC, or Zulu Time)
UTC: Coordinated Universal Time (a.k.a. UT)
UV: UltraViolet
UVS: UltraViolet Spectrometer
VAB: Vehicle Assembly Building (formerly Vertical Assembly Building)
VAFB: Vandenberg Air Force Base
VEEGA: Venus-Earth-Earth Gravity Assist (Galileo flight path)
VHF: Very High Frequency
VLA: Very Large Array
VLBA: Very Long Baseline Array
VLBI: Very Long Baseline Interferometry
VLF: Very Low Frequency
VLT: Very Large Telescope
VMS: Vertical Motion Simulator
VOIR: Venus Orbiting Imaging Radar (superseded by VRM)
VPF: Vertical Processing Facility
VRM: Venus Radar Mapper (now called Magellan)
WD: White Dwarf
WFPC: Wide Field / Planetary Camera (on HST)
WFPCII: Replacement for WFPC
WIYN: Wisconsin / Indiana / Yale / NOAO telescope
WSMR: White Sands Missile Range
WTR: Western Test Range
WUPPE: Wisconsin Ultraviolet PhotoPolarimter Experiment (Astro package)
XMM: X-ray Multi Mirror
XUV: eXtreme UltraViolet
YSO: Young Stellar Object
#!/usr/bin/perl
# 'alt', An Acronym Scrambling Program, by Larry Wall
$THRESHOLD = 2;
srand;
while (<>) {
next unless /^([A-Z]\S+): */;
$key = $1;
$acro{$key} = $';
@words = split(/\W+/,$');
unshift(@words,$key);
$off = 0;
foreach $word (@words) {
next unless $word =~ /^[A-Z]/;
*w = $&;
vec($w{$word}, $off++ % 6, 1) = 1;
}
}
foreach $letter (A .. Z) {
*w = $letter;
@w = keys %w;
if (@w < $THRESHOLD) {
@d = `egrep '^$letter' /usr/dict/words`;
chop @d;
push(@w, @d);
}
}
foreach $key (sort keys %acro) {
$off = 0;
$acro = $acro{$key};
$acro =~ s/((([A-Z])[A-Z]*)[a-z]*)/ &pick($3, $2, $1, ++$off) || $& /eg;
print "$key: $acro";
}
sub pick {
local($letter, $prefix, $oldword, $off) = @_;
$i = 0;
if (length($prefix) > 1 && index($key,$prefix) < 0) {
if ($prefix eq $oldword) {
$prefix = '';
}
else {
$prefix = $letter;
}
}
if (length($prefix) > 1) {
local(*w) = substr($prefix,0,1);
do {
$word = $w[rand @w];
} until $word ne $oldword && $word =~ /^$prefix/i || ++$i > 30;
$word =~ s/^$prefix/$prefix/i;
$word;
}
elsif (length($prefix) == 1) {
local(*w) = $prefix;
do {
$word = $w[rand @w];
} until $word ne $oldword && vec($w{$word}, $off, 1) || ++$i > 10;
$word = "\u\L$word" if $word =~ tr/a-z/A-Z/;
$word;
}
else {
local(*w) = substr($oldword,0,1);
do {
$word = $w[rand @w];
} until $word ne $oldword && $word =~ tr/a-z/A-Z/ == 0 || ++$i > 30;
$word;
}
}
-- Mark Bradford (bradfrd2@ncar.ucar.edu) <> To err is human, to moo bovine.
"It's an ill wind that gathers no moss."
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 6 Mar 1993 23:14:22 GMT
From: Arthur Chandler <arthurc@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu>
Subject: Charon
Newsgroups: sci.space
Does anyone know if there any plans, in the near or far future, to
send a probe to or near Charon, the moon/coplanet of Pluto?
------------------------------
Date: 6 Mar 93 19:20:30 GMT
From: Keith Barrett <aminet!barrett>
Subject: David Sternlight and wasted bandwidth
Newsgroups: news.admin.policy,alt.privacy,comp.org.eff.talk,sci.space
In article <hellvik.1.731068109@stc.nato.int>, hellvik@stc.nato.int (Ove Hellvik) writes:
>>kill file, while it has it's place, is NOT the solution to all the complaints
>>on the net. It is the net equivalent of hiding your head in the sand or
>>turning the other way and letting things continue on, unchecked.
I totally agree!
>>The checks and balances that keep what control we ALL have over the net
>>in place would soon fail if every little thing that bugged someone was
>>relegated to a kill file and nothing more. Anonymous postings have their
>>place in some groups (do I need to tell you which ones?) but the problem
>>showing up now is that they are being used to avoid accountability for
>>outrageous (to some) postings.
Again I agree. People should always be held accountable/responsible
for their own statements.
>>Use a kill file, let it all continue unchecked and the problem WILL get
>>worse. We need to deal with it now, not stick our collective heads in
>>the sand.
I'll also add that "ignoring" these posts are not enough. They also take
bandwidth, disk space, and some sites PAY for this. Do YOU want to
pay for many megs of stuff you have to ignore via kill files? Also,
some newsreaders don't support kill files.
Anon postings should ONLY apply to newsgroups that have it as part of
it's charter. Anonomous postings from Fidonet, public access systems,
children, or people just to cowardly to stand up for themselves do NOT
belong and are pretty useless. How serious would YOU take a statement
made from someone identifying themself simply as "The Borg" (for example)?
Things need to be placed in context.
-kgb
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
UUCP: nuconvex.com!aminet!barrett Keep circulating the tapes - MST3k
DDN: barrett%aminet.uucp@decwrl.dec.com // My life is my own - the prisoner
Alternate: barrett@pamsrc.enet.dec.com \X/ Amiga 3000UX - The Next Generation
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------
Date: 6 Mar 93 18:36:42 GMT
From: "John S. Novak III" <darknite@camelot.bradley.edu>
Subject: Fallen Angels
Newsgroups: sci.space
In <14509.409.uupcb@the-matrix.com> roland.dobbins@the-matrix.com (Roland Dobbins) writes:
>_Fallen Angels_ is by Larry Niven, Jerry Pournelle, and Steven Barnes.
>Niven and Pournelle have done many many other books together, such as
>_Footfall_, _The Mote in God's Eye_, _The Gripping Hand_, etc.
Sorry, but _Fallen Angels_ is by Niven, Pournelle, and Michael
Flynn.
>They also formed the Citizens' Advisory Council on National S[ace Policy,
>which sold Ronald Reagan on the idea of SDI.
>Phoenix is the brainchild of Gary Hudson, who appeared as himself in the
>book. He can be reaced on BIX as "ghudson".
--
"I am an illiterate person. I speak only English."
-Dr. William Hammond, 10-25-91
John S. Novak, III darknite@camelot.bradley.edu
------------------------------
Date: 6 Mar 93 20:39:13 GMT
From: Daniel Myers <myers@cs.scarolina.edu>
Subject: Fallen Angels
Newsgroups: sci.space
roland.dobbins@the-matrix.com (Roland Dobbins) writes:
[lots of stuff deleted]
>Phoenix is the brainchild of Gary Hudson, who appeared as himself in the
>book. He can be reaced on BIX as "ghudson".
I am VERY interested in this topic. How does one on internet reach
anyone on BIX?
- DM
--
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Dan Myers (Madman) | If the creator had intended us to walk
myers@usceast.cs.scarolina.edu | upright, he wouldn't have given us knuckles
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 6 Mar 1993 20:07:58 GMT
From: Douglas R Fils <fils@iastate.edu>
Subject: Gaspra Animation
Newsgroups: sci.space,sci.astro,alt.sci.planetary
In article <6MAR199305441830@kelvin.jpl.nasa.gov> baalke@kelvin.jpl.nasa.gov (Ron Baalke) writes:
> ==============================
> GASPRA ANIMATION
> March 5, 1993
> ==============================
>
> A Gaspra animation is now available at the Ames Space Archives. This
>animation is courtesy of Jeff Alu. The animation was formed from 11 images
>taken by the Galileo spaecraft shortly before its closest approach to the
>asteroid in October 1991. The animation is in FLI format. Using anonymous
>ftp, the animation can be obtained from:
>
> ftp: ames.arc.nasa.gov (128.102.18.3)
> user: anonymous
> cd: pub/SPACE/ANIMATION
> files:
> gaspra.fli
> gaspra.txt (see below)
>
[...end of post deleted...]
Would it be possible for a quicktime (or PICT file that
can be converted to Quicktime) of this file to be made?
Doug
--
Douglas Fils fils@iastate.edu | Ego vos hortor tantum possum ut amicitiam
Dept. of Physics and Astronomy | omnibus rebus humanis anteponatis.
Iowa State University (ISU) | Cicero, On Friendship V.17
------------------------------
Date: 6 Mar 93 20:43:03 GMT
From: Daniel Myers <myers@cs.scarolina.edu>
Subject: Getting people into S
Newsgroups: sci.space
roland.dobbins@the-matrix.com (Roland Dobbins) writes:
>JL>Could that be the vehicle commonly called the flying Bumble Bee, wh
>JL>clai to fame in the ordinary world is the vehicle that opened the s
>JL>and each episode of the six million dollar man. If I recall correct
>JL>was aeronautically considered to be unflyable, but flew anyway and
>JL>for a while touted as a great instrument for flight to and from low
>JL>orbit. It finally crashed on descent when it touched down and did a
>JL>up unfortunately a Helo was in the way and the two collided as the
>JL>goes. I think That its prototypes and other s are still on display
>JL>the yearly aeronautical show at Edwards airforce base.
>As I recall, that particular lifting body was called the HL-10, and it
>was most certainly _not_ designed *not* to fly . . . .
I do not remember that particular lifting body, but many of the lifting
bodies flew exceptionally well. The lifting body programs in general
were cancelled due to the manned rocket program and to the lack of
sufficiently strong and light materials at the time.
- DM
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Date: 6 Mar 1993 12:52:28 -0500
From: Pat <prb@access.digex.com>
Subject: Jupiter and Venus followons (was Re: Refueling in orbit)
Newsgroups: sci.space
So would you say Magellan, was mariner derived? granted it was mostly scrap,
but it was built on a mariner bus.
pat
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Date: Sat, 6 Mar 1993 15:41:47 GMT
From: apryan@vax1.tcd.ie
Subject: Mir visible UK/Eire
Newsgroups: sci.space,sci.astro
To UK and Ireland netters:
The Mir space station is visible passing over the British Isles every day
until March 13th (since March 4th).
In U.K. and N.Ireland you can get the time by calling 0891-88-1950.
In Ireland you can get the time by calling 1550-111-442.
As the time is given in the first few seconds it only costs a LOCAL CALL!!!
The predicted time is updated before noon each day.
Please pass numbers on to friends and local astronomy societies. Thanks.
-Tony Ryan, "Astronomy & Space", new International magazine, available from:
Astronomy International, P.O.Box 2888, Dublin 1, Ireland.
6 issues (one year sub.): UK 10.00 pounds, US$20.00 (surface, add US$8.00).
ACCESS/VISA/MASTERCARD accepted (give number, expiry date, name&address).
newslines (48p/36p per min): 0891-88-1950 (UK/NI) 1550-111-442 (Eire)
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Date: Sat, 06 Mar 93 18:08:03 EST
From: Tom <18084TM@msu.edu>
Subject: Nasa and the free market
>>>>Exactly where in NASA's charter is the part about serving as a
>>>>welfare agency for engineers and MIS managers?
>>>Go work the numbers. So what are you supposed to do with these people, have
>>>them flip burgers?
"We" aren't supposed to do anything with them. They are. If they want to
apply their highly valuable skills doing what I'd like to see them do,
then I don't think NASA is the best place to do it. Between the high costs
of NASA projects, the unexplored possibilites for privatizing parts of
NASA, the unexplored possibilities for finding valuable resources in
space, and the subsidies NASA operates under that make it so hard for
private groups to take advantage of these possibilites, I think those
people's skills would come to greater fruition for themselves and others
without NASA acting like a jobs program and/or a monopoly.
All NASA has to do is get out the way! All the NASA people have to do
is offer the same services to people that would do the operations, or
do the operations for themselves, the way they think they should be done.
Is NASA a fuedal state? Are NASA people bound by oaths of fealty?
>> I can hear you say: "I'm sorry
>>Mr. Ford, but you can't be allowed to build your auto factory. You
>>would displace too many buggy whip makers and we can't have that".
>The United States government is not Henry Ford. You KNOW this, yet you
>persist in perpertrating the mythos of "Government can be run like private
>industry."
Yes, it is a myth. Not only does that mean that NASA should not attempt
to operate like a business, but it also means that the things NASA does,
in many cases, could be done better if it wasn't a gov. program.
There is nothing that NASA does that requires government to get it done,
with the possible exceptions of actual R&D, rather than operations, and
looking for dinosaur (or human) killer objects.
>>My solution would be to have them work in a larger self sustaining
>>space economy.
>There ain't no such thing. Your fantasies, Nick's fantasies, and Bowery's
>fantasies combind cannot change that.
The computer you type on, the car you drive, the space shuttle, the house
you live in, were all once nothing more than ideas, and pretty vaque at that.
Yes, fantasies can change reality, given free minds that want to make
them reality. Yet I hear defenders of NASA talking constantly of the
restriction on the freedoms of NASA's best minds, WRT accountability to
Congress, who have their own ideas how to run everyone's life.
Why do the defenders not recognize that NASA's very nature, it's heart and
soul, are the restrictions on the very minds we want to set free? Do the
defenders realize they are arguing for those restrictions?
C'mon NASA people, talk to me. Do you feel your skills or the skills of
your co-workers are allowed the freedom for their best expression?
Could you do better without the restrictions that linking NASA to
Congress creates? I'm talking operations here.
>About the only "self-sustaining" part of the space economy are comm sats, with
>future growth in remote imaging. Even remote imaging is somewhat subsidized
>by government interests.
Knowledge of what resources are available could provide the first steps to
making space self-sustaining. Yet this is an area where NASA has dropped
the ball, for no good reason. CRAF comes to mind, but that's only the
one I'm most familiar with. And who cancelled it?
Until these possibilites are explored, the lack of self-sustaining
resources in space is no argument for NASA's monopoly. After all, if
they don't exist, it's an argument for no NASA at all.
>Over the near-term, it's likely to remain that way.
Sounds like that could be a self-fulfilling prophecy, given that NASA is
constrained by representatives of the people, and is subsidised enough
to keep it's monopoly intact.
Just my $.02.
-Tommy Mac
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Date: Sat, 6 Mar 1993 19:38:02 GMT
From: "John S. Neff" <neff@iaiowa.physics.uiowa.edu>
Subject: Shuttle budget
Newsgroups: sci.space
In article <C3GA3v.6vC@zoo.toronto.edu> henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer) writes:
>From: henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer)
>Subject: Re: Shuttle budget
>Date: Sat, 6 Mar 1993 04:35:54 GMT
>In article <neff.33.731368490@iaiowa.physics.uiowa.edu> neff@iaiowa.physics.uiowa.edu (John S. Neff) writes:
>>>Some of the things NASA does could be privatized easily enough -- it
>>>really shouldn't be running a space trucking business, for example --
>>
>>Congressman Walker talked about getting NASA out of the space transportation
>>business, and focused on pure R&D at a hearing I attended about five years
>>ago. It sounded like a good idea until one stated to look at problems like
>>insurance and setting priorities. Who would be in charge of the Space
>>Transportation Authority? The Department of Defence, the Department of
>>Commerce, or the FAA?
>
>??? I don't understand. Why does there have to be a Space Transportation
>Authority? Government regulation of commercial rocketry was sorted out
>a long time ago, with the Office of Commercial Space Transportation,
>which is in place and functioning and has been for years.
>
>What do you mean by "setting priorities"? Who "sets priorities" for
>the airlines? Answer: the airlines do.
>
>What insurance problems are you thinking of that aren't already being
>dealt with for commercial space launches?
>
>Are you under the impression that launches of, say, Atlas, are still
>being run by the government? If so, you are badly out of date. If you
>want an Atlas launch, you talk to General Dynamics, not NASA or DoD.
>
>>...The commercial prospects seem to be limited to communications,
>>earth resources, GPS perhaps, and survellance services to third world
>>contries with big, well armed, and potentially hostile neighbors...
>
>What does this have to do with space transportation, which is the business
>I suggested NASA get out of? There is already vigorous commercial activity
>in space transportation.
>
>>... DOD has just spent a lot of money
>>developing a new set of launch vehicles so they would oppose the creation
>>of a Space Transportation Authority.
>
>Which launch vehicles are you referring to? The only launch vehicle that
>DoD owns these days is Titan IV. If *they* want an Atlas launch, they
>too get to talk to General Dynamics about it. (And no, they weren't
>especially happy about the law that required this.)
>--
>C++ is the best example of second-system| Henry Spencer @ U of Toronto Zoology
>effect since OS/360. | henry@zoo.toronto.edu utzoo!henry
The launches are from facilities owned by the government and are supervised
by the Air Force whi is responsible for destroying any vehicle that
is off course. Thus the government is liable not the company that provides
launch services.
In addition to the Titan IV the Air force owns a large number of ballistic
missles. Some of these have been converted to other uses such as SDI
projects. If the Air Force wants to use a Delta II or an Atlas Centaur II
not in their current inventory they would have to buy one from
either McDonnell Douglas or General Dynamics as you have said.
If there is to be a purely commercial launch service there has to be
sufficient commecial business for it to exist. Why should the government
use a commecial launch service when they have their own? My point was that
the Department of Defense is one of the biggest users of launch
services and they demand top priority.
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Date: 6 Mar 1993 02:37:53 -0600
From: Allen L Landers <allenl@matt.ksu.ksu.edu>
Subject: TEST...(Don't read this)
Newsgroups: sci.space
This is a test....
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Date: 6 Mar 1993 02:41:08 -0600
From: Allen L Landers <allenl@matt.ksu.ksu.edu>
Subject: TEST...(Don't read this)
Newsgroups: sci.space
This is a test...
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